By Timothy Stutt and Melanie Debenham

Episode 7 – It’s not about the money, money, money with Lewis McDonald, Global Head of Energy for Herbert Smith Freehills

In this episode, Tim and Mel are joined by expert third wheel guest, Lewis McDonald, Global Head of Energy for Herbert Smith Freehills. Fresh from presenting at the 12th Annual Sustainable Innovation Forum (SIF) which took place alongside COP26 in Glasgow, Lewis observes the number of zeros committed to net zero, at least $133 trillion as announced by Mark Carney’s Glasgow Financial Alliance. He asserts that the real challenge is creating enough investable net zero projects for the money – through a public / private blend of government support to achieve scale and efficiencies, and the legal mechanisms to make novel projects work.

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About this podcast series

We explore the topical Environment, Social and Governance issues of the day in Australia.

Each episode, Partners Timothy Stutt and Melanie Debenham are joined by an expert third wheel guest to explore the issues from their unique perspectives.

Mel is an expert on business-critical environment, planning, heritage and native title regulation in Australia. Tim specialises in ESG from a corporate governance perspective, including market disclosure, risk management and shareholder engagement/activism.

We wish to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the lands Mel and Tim are recording from, the Whadjuk people of the Noongar nation in Perth and the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation in Sydney. We wish to acknowledge and respect their continuing culture and the contribution they make to the life of this country.


Timothy Stutt
Timothy Stutt
Partner, Sydney
+61 2 9225 5794
Melanie Debenham
Melanie Debenham
Partner, Perth
+61 8 9211 7560
Lewis McDonald
Lewis McDonald
Global Head of Energy, London
+44 20 7466 2257