By Barbie-Lee Kirby and Charlee-Sue Frail

Episode 9 –  Wiyi Yani U Thangani (Women’s Voices) with Charlee-Sue Frail, Former advisor of Wiyi Yani U Thangani and Dusseldorp Forum board member

In this final episode for 2021, some very special guest hosts take the wheel! Barbie-Lee Kirby, Responsible Business & First Nations Engagement Executive and Allira Jeffery, HSF Graduate discuss Wiyi Yani U Thangani (Women’s Voices): Securing our Rights, Securing our Future, a once in a generation report led by the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner, June Oscar AO. Charlee-Sue Frail is an advisor to the commission and shares her experiences in the development of the report and capturing and responding to the rights, needs and aspirations of First Nations women and girls.

About this podcast series

We explore the topical Environment, Social and Governance issues of the day in Australia.

Each episode, Partners Timothy Stutt and Melanie Debenham are joined by an expert third wheel guest to explore the issues from their unique perspectives.

Mel is an expert on business-critical environment, planning, heritage and native title regulation in Australia. Tim specialises in ESG from a corporate governance perspective, including market disclosure, risk management and shareholder engagement/activism.

We wish to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the lands Mel and Tim are recording from, the Whadjuk people of the Noongar nation in Perth and the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation in Sydney. We wish to acknowledge and respect their continuing culture and the contribution they make to the life of this country.


Timothy Stutt
Timothy Stutt
Partner, Sydney
+61 2 9225 5794
Melanie Debenham
Melanie Debenham
Partner, Perth
+61 8 9211 7560